Comments on: Pain. Or, Why Learning to Code is like Learning Chinese. https://amandapeyton.com/blog/2010/02/pain-or-why-learning-to-code-is-like-learning-chinese/ AP's thoughts and musings Fri, 28 Aug 2015 03:13:09 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Teach Yourself Spanish https://amandapeyton.com/blog/2010/02/pain-or-why-learning-to-code-is-like-learning-chinese/comment-page-1/#comment-4283 Teach Yourself Spanish Wed, 01 Jun 2011 05:04:55 +0000 http://savemefrombschool.com/?p=433#comment-4283 <br>If you are<br>willing to learn, then have passion on your work.<br>Knowing your weaknesses will be an advantage for you in becoming a<br>good learner. Learn from your mistakes. <br><br> If you are
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]]> By: Intrawebs https://amandapeyton.com/blog/2010/02/pain-or-why-learning-to-code-is-like-learning-chinese/comment-page-1/#comment-4281 Intrawebs Fri, 12 Feb 2010 05:24:32 +0000 http://savemefrombschool.com/?p=433#comment-4281 "over the next 5 years I can learn enough of the LAMP stack to be dangerous." <br><br>That takes less than 1 minute and is achieved by simply the boot of L in LAMP.<br><br>Also, those that dont stick with it are just like anybody else with anything else, they either grok it too soon (not likely with programing) and get bored or it becomes "too much work" and lately people just hate that.<br><br>It takes 10K hours at something to get to a professional level. Want to learn blues guitar and be as good as BB King, you have a long road ahead of ya. <br><br>Point being, doing what you love for those your love turns work into something thats easy. For you, ..... do you love pc's, servers, hardware, technology, and being a Shaman with all of them so to speak....then programming might be something fun for you!<br><br>If not, be honest with yourself. You are only competing with yourself, everyone else can f'off.<br><br>Good luck, onward and upward with your bad self. ;-) “over the next 5 years I can learn enough of the LAMP stack to be dangerous.”

That takes less than 1 minute and is achieved by simply the boot of L in LAMP.

Also, those that dont stick with it are just like anybody else with anything else, they either grok it too soon (not likely with programing) and get bored or it becomes “too much work” and lately people just hate that.

It takes 10K hours at something to get to a professional level. Want to learn blues guitar and be as good as BB King, you have a long road ahead of ya.

Point being, doing what you love for those your love turns work into something thats easy. For you, ….. do you love pc's, servers, hardware, technology, and being a Shaman with all of them so to speak….then programming might be something fun for you!

If not, be honest with yourself. You are only competing with yourself, everyone else can f'off.

Good luck, onward and upward with your bad self. ;-)

]]> By: mynameissmeall https://amandapeyton.com/blog/2010/02/pain-or-why-learning-to-code-is-like-learning-chinese/comment-page-1/#comment-4280 mynameissmeall Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:26:27 +0000 http://savemefrombschool.com/?p=433#comment-4280 RE: the above two comments--learning "bo po mo fo" as Amanda describes it isn't about tones, nor is it equivalent to the Taiwanese shortcut reading system. It is about learning to pronounce Chinese sounds properly, i.e. accent, which is something many students of Chinese never learn. I am surprised how many people I meet who have studied Chinese for years, and have excellent tones, but still can't reliably differentiate between "lu" street and "lü" green. <br><br>Now if only there was a fascinating and diverse land you could go live in where you would be unable eat or enjoy yourself unless you spoke Python. RE: the above two comments–learning “bo po mo fo” as Amanda describes it isn't about tones, nor is it equivalent to the Taiwanese shortcut reading system. It is about learning to pronounce Chinese sounds properly, i.e. accent, which is something many students of Chinese never learn. I am surprised how many people I meet who have studied Chinese for years, and have excellent tones, but still can't reliably differentiate between “lu” street and “lü” green.

Now if only there was a fascinating and diverse land you could go live in where you would be unable eat or enjoy yourself unless you spoke Python.

]]> By: leprakhauns https://amandapeyton.com/blog/2010/02/pain-or-why-learning-to-code-is-like-learning-chinese/comment-page-1/#comment-4279 leprakhauns Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:19:29 +0000 http://savemefrombschool.com/?p=433#comment-4279 I said if you learned the fundamentals first, then the language itself is just the syntax. The fundamentals are the flowcharts, pseudocode, the theory of an object, etc. Once you learn and understand the fundamentals then you can move on to any language. I said if you learned the fundamentals first, then the language itself is just the syntax. The fundamentals are the flowcharts, pseudocode, the theory of an object, etc. Once you learn and understand the fundamentals then you can move on to any language.

]]> By: Pain. Or, Why Learning to Code is like Learning Chinese. « Coding for begginers https://amandapeyton.com/blog/2010/02/pain-or-why-learning-to-code-is-like-learning-chinese/comment-page-1/#comment-4278 Pain. Or, Why Learning to Code is like Learning Chinese. « Coding for begginers Thu, 11 Feb 2010 10:06:39 +0000 http://savemefrombschool.com/?p=433#comment-4278 [...] http://savemefrombschool.com/2010/02/pain-or-why-learning-to-code-is-like-learning-chinese [...] [...] http://savemefrombschool.com/2010/02/pain-or-why-learning-to-code-is-like-learning-chinese [...]

]]> By: ashlin https://amandapeyton.com/blog/2010/02/pain-or-why-learning-to-code-is-like-learning-chinese/comment-page-1/#comment-4277 ashlin Thu, 11 Feb 2010 08:48:17 +0000 http://savemefrombschool.com/?p=433#comment-4277 Have you heard of Head First Programming book?<br><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Head-First-Programming-Learners-Language/dp/0596802374" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/Head-First-Programming-Le...</a> Have you heard of Head First Programming book?
http://www.amazon.com/Head-First-Programming-Le...

]]> By: trevelyan https://amandapeyton.com/blog/2010/02/pain-or-why-learning-to-code-is-like-learning-chinese/comment-page-1/#comment-4276 trevelyan Thu, 11 Feb 2010 07:58:17 +0000 http://savemefrombschool.com/?p=433#comment-4276 Hi Amanda,<br><br>Just on the Chinese front, most people who pick up Chinese in China end up with decent tones so it isn't true you need to start from bopomofo. I'd be irritated with any school that did that to me or anyone I know. The school shouldn't be holding back the student.<br><br>In the case you're still looking to keep up your Chinese, I'd suggest checking out Popup Chinese (<a href="http://popupchinese.com" rel="nofollow">http://popupchinese.com</a>). Our users make a lot of progress quickly, but they're not babied on their way up the ramp which seems to make a real difference.<br><br>Best,<br><br>--david Hi Amanda,

Just on the Chinese front, most people who pick up Chinese in China end up with decent tones so it isn't true you need to start from bopomofo. I'd be irritated with any school that did that to me or anyone I know. The school shouldn't be holding back the student.

In the case you're still looking to keep up your Chinese, I'd suggest checking out Popup Chinese (http://popupchinese.com). Our users make a lot of progress quickly, but they're not babied on their way up the ramp which seems to make a real difference.

Best,

–david

]]> By: james woodyatt https://amandapeyton.com/blog/2010/02/pain-or-why-learning-to-code-is-like-learning-chinese/comment-page-1/#comment-4275 james woodyatt Thu, 11 Feb 2010 07:36:02 +0000 http://savemefrombschool.com/?p=433#comment-4275 "you can pretty much take that and apply it to any language, all you'd need is the syntax for that language."<br><br>This is the opposite of true. Don't take my word for it; go walk over to the computer science department, find a professor there— any professor— and ask for an authoritative opinion.<br><br>There is a lot more to writing useful code than learning the syntax of your programming language. “you can pretty much take that and apply it to any language, all you'd need is the syntax for that language.”

This is the opposite of true. Don't take my word for it; go walk over to the computer science department, find a professor there— any professor— and ask for an authoritative opinion.

There is a lot more to writing useful code than learning the syntax of your programming language.

]]> By: Gergely Imreh https://amandapeyton.com/blog/2010/02/pain-or-why-learning-to-code-is-like-learning-chinese/comment-page-1/#comment-4274 Gergely Imreh Thu, 11 Feb 2010 05:54:48 +0000 http://savemefrombschool.com/?p=433#comment-4274 Wow, they do "bopomofo" in Beijing? I thought it is a completely Taiwanese thing to teach kids to read, and to have one more way of typing...<br><br>And maybe it's hard to write respectable code, because things are changing much faster than to settle in any language for long enough time? Wow, they do “bopomofo” in Beijing? I thought it is a completely Taiwanese thing to teach kids to read, and to have one more way of typing…

And maybe it's hard to write respectable code, because things are changing much faster than to settle in any language for long enough time?

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